In The Rising Podcast- A Health and Wellness Podcast

Chancellor Jackson- from 14 Days in a Beijing Jail to Author and Coach

October 11, 2022 Bettina M. Brown/ Chancellor Jackson Season 2 Episode 164
In The Rising Podcast- A Health and Wellness Podcast
Chancellor Jackson- from 14 Days in a Beijing Jail to Author and Coach
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode of the In the Rising podcast, host Bettina Brown welcomes guest Chancellor Jackson, who shares his inspiring story of transformation and personal growth. The episode titled "Chancellor Jackson- from 14 Days in a Beijing Jail to Author and Coach" delves into Chancellor's experience of being imprisoned in Beijing for 14 days and how he turned this challenging ordeal into a catalyst for positive change in his life.

Bettina highlights the importance of living a life aligned with one's hopes, dreams, and goals and explores the concept of wringing every drop of joy out of life. Chancellor's story serves as a powerful example of how one can overcome shame and blame and forge a path towards self-discovery and growth.

Throughout the episode, Chancellor reflects on his time in Beijing, sharing insights about the transformative journey he embarked on during those 14 days. He gained a deeper understanding of a foreign culture, one that most people have little knowledge of, and also experienced spirituality on a profound level. The story encompasses elements of suspense, mystery, drama, fear, and humor, making it a multi-faceted and engaging narrative.

The conversation between Bettina and Chancellor covers various topics, including his initial motivations for going to Beijing, his experience teaching English to young children, and the unexpected turns that led to his imprisonment. The episode provides listeners with a captivating account of Chancellor's journey, showcasing his resilience and ability to find silver linings even in the darkest of situations.

Overall, "Chancellor Jackson- from 14 Days in a Beijing Jail to Author and Coach" offers a thought-provoking and inspiring narrative that encourages listeners to embrace life's challenges as opportunities for growth and self-improvement.




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[00:00:00] Bettina M Brown: Hello, hello, and welcome to In the Rising podcast. My name is Bettina Brown, and I'm the host of the show as well as a person really excited to talk about living a life that's in alignment with your hopes, your dreams, and your goals. Basically, wringing life out to just get every drop of joy possible.

[00:00:31] Bettina M Brown: Turning your back on things that are full of shame and blame and do nothing for you in the long run. And my guest today is Chancellor Jackson, and he has taken a moment or several moments, several days, 14 to be exact, of something that can be seen as shameful and negative. And he transformed the rest of his life and opened up a life and world of possibilities through that.

[00:00:56] Bettina M Brown: So, I'm really excited for you to hear what Chancellor Jackson has to share today. So, thank you, Chancellor, for being here today on In the Rising Podcast because you have,a story to unpack for 

[00:01:11] Bettina M Brown: sure. Yeah, yeah. It's been a journey. It's been a journey for sure. For sure. For sure. But you know what I'm saying?

[00:01:20] Bettina M Brown: A lot. Was gained from it. I mean, despite how dark or crazy or scary it may seem, it's very enlightening. It's a very enlightening journey where a lot of self-discovery. Learn a lot about a culture that most people have no knowledge of entirely. You may. And get a dose of spirituality. It's, it's like a jack of all trades, honestly.

[00:01:47] Bettina M Brown: That's why I went number one in so many different genres, just because it's suspenseful. It's mysterious. It's dramatic. You know what I'm saying? It's scary at times. It's funny at times. But you know what I'm saying? Because of my sense of humor. Yeah, it's just based on travel as well. Yeah, I mean, being a different country.

[00:02:03] Bettina M Brown: So it's a very, very, very great story as well as it is a great read. Yeah, man. 

[00:02:10] Chancellor Jackson: So, we're going to start with the title, 14 Days in Beijing. Yeah. What were you doing in Beijing in the first place? 

[00:02:18] Bettina M Brown: So, I landed my first job In China, after I graduated from college in 2018 I was teaching English to children as young as three years old, all the way up to 14.

[00:02:28] Bettina M Brown: And I went to Beijing on October 10th, 2018. So that's how I ended up out there. 

[00:02:37] Chancellor Jackson: And were you, I have spoken to another teacher actually who was writing books about how to teach overseas. And so was this something that was even on your radar? Like you would want to leave? 

[00:02:48] Bettina M Brown: No, absolutely not.

[00:02:50] Bettina M Brown: Absolutely not. It's crazy. Just how I even just came across the application. I graduated once my football career was over in 2017. So, it was my senior year of college season just ended. I know I ain't going to the NFL. I ain't even trying to go. So, I immediately started applying for jobs.

[00:03:14] Bettina M Brown: I was mainly applying for corporate positions, sales, marketing, management, you know what I'm saying? That, that field. And I was applying, getting interviews, getting flown out, put in hotels, a whole nine, for about eight months straight of this process, and I just kept getting told no. So here it is, I done graduated, I'm back home, driving Uber.

[00:03:38] Bettina M Brown: And I'm just like, but no, I ain't go through all of that, you know what I'm saying, four years of school doing everything, quote unquote, the textbook, the right way for me to just be sitting here with, you know what I'm saying? Nothing going on, essentially. So I took took a re approach to my job search.

[00:03:56] Bettina M Brown: I'm like, okay, clearly corporate isn't for you because we've been at this for quite some time now, and the result has been the same. So let's look into something different. And I just brought in my search. Engine to globally strategists. Domestically. And it, mind it, just that small tweak, that one filter that, you know what I'm saying?

[00:04:17] Bettina M Brown: That's when I came across, Oh, teach English in China. Sound interesting. Basic requirements, nothing, you know what I'm saying? Easy process to apply. All you gotta do is submit a resume. So I'm like, Oh yeah, I'll do that. Apply. So we said I ended up getting a job. So after all this time getting told no first job, tell me yes on the other side of the world.

[00:04:39] Bettina M Brown: There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. So 

[00:04:40] Chancellor Jackson: you packed up and you went over. How did your family and friends take you? I mean, it's one thing to work in another state, like to really go literally on the other side of the planet and then China. Yeah. What 

[00:04:53] Bettina M Brown: did they say? I mean, they gave the recruiter gave me five days to give them a decision because they knew it was big.

[00:05:01] Bettina M Brown: I mean, you can move to the other side of the world. So it just gave you a good amount of time to really rest on it. And you know what I'm saying? Tap in with your family and friends and you know what I'm saying? Make sure it's a good decision for you. But I was already sold on it as soon as they say, yeah, we want to move forward with you as a candidate.

[00:05:19] Bettina M Brown: I was already sold on it, but I'm like, it is a big decision, so let me tap in with the tribe and see what the tribe got to say. I got a green light from everybody. Everybody's like, yeah, do that. I was like, oh yeah, we lit. Here we come, China, here we come. And China has always been an interest of mine, you know what I'm saying, ever since I was a kid.

[00:05:36] Bettina M Brown: In the introduction of my book I talk about. Being at the having breakfast with my family one Saturday morning. It was me and my mom, my little brother. I'm like seven, eight years old. And she asked my brother and I, she said, what's three places in the world y'all want to go? And I made sure that we go first place.

[00:05:55] Bettina M Brown: She's like, why China? So that's where everything is made. That's the only reason I had as you know, says like, that's what, cause I live, you look on the back of any product made in China. So I just, as you understand, just where I was, I'm like, why is everything made in one place? Like, what is China got going on over there?

[00:06:10] Bettina M Brown: Like they own something for everything to be made. From this one place. So I was always interested in China, you know what I'm saying, since a young age, just because of that aspect. So this is crazy as time progress, you know what I mean? It really manifested. So, yeah, it was, it was just, I feel like it was truly written for me to embark on a journey.

[00:06:32] Bettina M Brown: So it really wasn't no fear or no, you know what I'm saying? Animosity or nah, it was, you got to do it. 

[00:06:42] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, well, you know, everyone has a different word for it, but, you know, bigger universe. God has a sense of humor, too. You want to go wait a few years, but we'll  definitely, you know what I'm saying?

[00:07:00] Bettina M Brown: So, but that's the power of manifestation. You know what I'm saying? Seeing something before you physically see it, you know, so you got to envision it, got to speak on it, write it. Whatever you're made and then you'd be surprised stuff.

[00:07:12] Chancellor Jackson:  You go to China. You're flying over there. Are you having any reservations at that time?

[00:07:18] Bettina M Brown: Not at all. Not at all. Well, technically I had a layover flight in Seattle for about 4, 5 hours. So, with cannabis being recreational and Seattle, I went to the close dispensary, got high out of my mind. So, I was high on vast majority of the flight going into China. So, I was just calm, cool and collected, but I'm a Sagittarius.

[00:07:38] Bettina M Brown: I'm very adventurous, spontaneous and optimistic. So I was really excited. You know what I'm talking about? This is going to be the journey and experience. It's going to be a huge adventure, huge adventure. I'm going to literally be in a completely different world. And I already know when everything's said and done, I'm going to benefit from this in some form of fashion.

[00:08:01] Bettina M Brown: You know what I'm saying? What's going, what is going to be like when it's all said and done, but I know I'm a benefit from this, this experience in this journey. So, I was just excited, you know what I'm saying, just to be immersed in something different. 

[00:08:15] Chancellor Jackson: So, you land and then tell us like what happened. You start, I mean, you just start speaking English to some kids.

[00:08:21] Chancellor Jackson: Like what happened? What is the process? 

[00:08:23] Chancellor Jackson: So I get there. I'm coming in with a recruiting class. It was like 28 of us. They put us all up in a hotel. For 2 weeks as we go through training and we're supposed to find housing apartments that we're going to leave in once we get to once we've, you know, saying graduate training and move to our actual centers and stuff like that.

[00:08:46] Chancellor Jackson: So found the apartment on the East side of the business district. So, I'm in the area of folks. I got money. It was beautiful to very, very beautiful. And started working in my center and slowly, slowly got acclimated into running lessons and then run eventually running my own classes. So I'll just co teaching with other teachers and then slowly getting my own classes and then.

[00:09:16] Chancellor Jackson:, I mean, just working my way up. They very, they really, literally spoon fed me. They really walked me into it versus some of my peers. That was man. So, they got a basic training. They was just thrown into the fire. Like, you know what I mean? So their experience wasn't as pleasurable. I would say like mine was.

[00:09:33] Chancellor Jackson:: So work was a vibe and the kids were amazing. Kids, you know what I'm saying, energy off the wall, you know what I mean. Kids are kids no matter where you are in the world, but they definitely made the job worthwhile for sure. We was always, we always had a blast in class. Yeah, I was mainly, I mainly hung out with foreigners for the most part.

[00:09:50] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, I mainly hung out with foreigners. So I really didn't have to speak Mandarin that much unless I'm trying to buy something or, you know what I mean, I'm just out in the actual field field, you know what I mean. But yeah, China was absolutely amazing. I'm just going on different exploring China. I'm in a different world.

[00:10:05] Chancellor Jackson: I'm not from here. I don't have any family members here. No friends. So everything is going to be brand new and everything is going to be a challenge just because I don't look like I don't look like these people. I don't speak their language. So it was just it was a thrill for me. I had a blast, you know, just exploring Beijing meeting different people.

[00:10:25] Chancellor Jackson: Man, it was, it was, it was amazing going to clubs. Clubs is fine. Clubs, get out there. I mean, so like first, I only did six months total before I got locked up. Well, yes, six months total before I got locked up. So, man, prior to the last 14 days, China was absolutely amazing. The best experience I've ever had.

[00:10:44] Chancellor Jackson: Experience and I highly recommend everybody live abroad at one point in time in their life. I highly recommend I highly recommend you enjoy it. You'll enjoy it. You ain't got nothing to hold you back either. 

[00:11:04] Chancellor Jackson: You're having the good time, but you're also doing something meaningful for these children to help them. You know, it's different when you learn a language from a person that speaks that language all day, all night versus in school, but then you have something happened towards the end of your stay. So describe, describe that.

[00:11:22] Chancellor Jackson:: So 4th, 2019, chapter one, day one. It's day off, it's Thursday, which is a day off for me. So I got an event I planned in the afternoon to attend with co workers and friends scope to my typical morning routine for start getting ready to head to the event. I'm like, I'm a pregame before I go. So I'm in an apartment by myself.

[00:11:50] Chancellor Jackson: It's vibing out to my music, drinking some Chinese liquor, smoking some cannabis. I'm a little silver pipe. Once I finish getting faded, start getting dressed. All right. Now I'm just making sure I got everything before I go, head knocking on the door, look through the peephole, there's three officers from the Beijing police, so open the door, they come in, question me about drugs, I'm sitting there playing fool like I don't know what they're talking about, and end up drug testing me right there on the spot, failed the drug test of course they found my stash, and then, you know what I'm saying, they throw the cuffs on me, and Go to one precinct for a little bit.

[00:12:31] Chancellor Jackson: I'm not really doing nothing. They just send me down in the waiting room. Then after we leave the first precinct, we go to another precinct. This one's a lot bigger and I'm housed here for 14 hours. They do conduct my official interrogation, which is dramatic within the book. Cause they locked me into this metal chair that locks your legs, like your shins, waist, chest.

[00:12:53] Chancellor Jackson: And arms all into one place like this here. So I'm doing my whole interrogation locked into this metal chair. Only thing I can move is my head. But I'm still high while this is going on. So I'm still calm, cool and collected. After that, I'll be back to the hotel for the remainder of time. Hours pass, they hear me from the hotel.

[00:13:12] Chancellor Jackson: Take me to the lobby. Give my clothes. Let me get dressed. Okay, I'm taking everything to work out. If you let me go get dressed, they take me to the evidence room. The rest of the cannabis that was confiscated. They weigh it up in front of me. I have 1. 4 grams. 1. 4. We talking units of measurement. 1. 4 grams of anything.

[00:13:31] Chancellor Jackson: It's not a lot. So, it's not a lot. I don't have a lot. And you know, I didn't have a lot of in my possession. But document everything. Put it on paper. Have me sign and thumbprint it. Get back in the van. I have no nobody to explain anything to me. This entire time, once the cuffs is on me and the interrogations was done, that was our communication.

[00:13:52] Chancellor Jackson: I  receive after that. So I have no clue what's going on. I'm just following orders. So here we understand. I don't know where we're going. Time passes. We arrived at the actual jail. Go through the nurse office, go through the typical physical. Give me my uniform, had me change clothes, put my stuff up in the storage room, gave me a plastic bowl and plastic spoon, and walked me to cell 209, where I was housed with 14 days, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 15 people to one cell, 9 wooden beds.

[00:14:23] Chancellor Jackson: So a few blessed beds. So, and how I describe it in the book is like you know what I'm saying? Imagine, like, think back when you was a kid and you had like a little sleepover, slumber party with your friends or your cousins or something. It ain't a lot of space for everybody, so you have to make room.

[00:14:41] Bettina M Brown:: Were you the only foreigner in that group?

[00:14:43] Chancellor Jackson: For the first three days, I was the only foreigner in the cell, only English speaker. So I'm in the cell with 14 other Chinese men done. Of who? Which I can speak to. Mm-hmm. . So a lot of the first three chapters, which are the first three days, I'm just completely in my head, , completely in my head.

[00:14:58] Chancellor Jackson:. on chapter four, day four, I moved to another cell and that's where I'm immersed with two English speakers. And that's when it's, it's really a shift within the whole story because now all the questions and just anxiety that's been built up now we can start, it can start to get relieved and we can start getting answers to how this thing, how this process works because here I am, I'm just locked up.

[00:15:26] Chancellor Jackson: I don't know how long I'm going to be here. Nobody knows I'm here. I don't know what's going on. It's not looking good for me right about now, but now I'm in a cell with other English speakers. Who have an understanding of the rules who know the rules of the jail who knows how this process works. So now it's okay.

[00:15:43] Chancellor Jackson: I can get an idea of how this thing will play out. But still, I have no clue how long I'm going to be here. I still that I never, I never received.