How Paula Telizyn Overcame Challenges and Achieved Success in Business Ownership

In this episode of "In the Rising Podcast," host Bettina M Brown interviews Paula Telizyn, a successful business owner, author, and consultant. Paula shares her journey of transitioning from being a solopreneur to running her own business.

During the conversation, Paula talks about her experiences and the challenges she faced while building companies from scratch. She also shares valuable insights on how to overcome obstacles and achieve success in business ownership.

Bettina and Paula discuss the importance of having the courage and determination to become an entrepreneur. They explore the mindset required to leave a stable job and venture into the world of business.

This episode provides a fascinating and inspiring discussion for anyone interested in entrepreneurship, business ownership, and personal growth. Paula's story serves as a testament to the power of perseverance and following your passion.

Tune in to hear Paula Telizyn's incredible journey and gain valuable knowledge about building a successful business on your own terms.

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[00:00:00] Bettina M Brown: Greetings And welcome to In the Rising podcast. My name is Bettina Brown, and this is the platform I've chosen to talk about living a life that's in alignment with your hopes, your dreams. Moving that needle towards your North Star on your personal life compass, turning your back, walking away from things that are only going to bring you down, shame, blame, indecision, and lack of movement.

[00:00:24] Bettina M Brown: My guest today is Paula Telizyn. She is out of Canada and Love the way she pronounces some of her words, but just a really phenomenal woman who is a business owner, who's an author now working on one one-on-one consulting because she has done the solopreneur on her own for so long and been successful that she knows how you can walk away from your job so that you're running your business instead of your business running you.

[00:00:49] Bettina M Brown: I'm really eager to share this episode with you. Well, thank you, Paula, for being with me today on in the rising podcast. I'm super excited to speak with you and you are in Canada today or all the time. 

[00:01:05] Paula Telizyn: Well, all the time. Yes. I'd say 99. 9 percent of the time. 

[00:01:10] Bettina M Brown: And I was really fascinated about your story from a couple areas for one that you've built companies from the ground up.

[00:01:16] Bettina M Brown: And then another part where you started over. And so I'd like to kind of go into both of those. Can you talk about where you've decided to have the guts and the courage to build and be an entrepreneur? 

[00:01:30] Paula Telizyn: I never wanted to be an entrepreneur. I wanted the job security. It's why I went into technology in the nineties when the internet was still coming up.

[00:01:39] Paula Telizyn: And I was, you know, part of some really impressive new things happening in Toronto, in Canada at the time. And then I got pregnant, not, not by accident on purpose. I thought, well, just, you know, shove the baby in daycare and keep going and that's not what happened. I looked at her and went, she's vulnerable.

[00:01:55] Paula Telizyn: We had only six months, a six-month maternity leave in Canada at the time. So, I just looked at her at six months and went, I can't, she has no voice, no ability to say if she's been mistreated. And I went, okay, I'll see if my job will let me work remote and they wouldn't. So, I quit. And that left me with, I was married at the time and that left me with no choice.

[00:02:16] Paula Telizyn: It was if I was going to stay home with my kid, I needed to figure out how to earn an income. So, I never wanted to be an entrepreneur. It was really stressful. I come from a whole line of entrepreneurs, so I don't know why I didn't want to be, but there we go. And I built a business from the ground up just one client at a time, one person at a time, one project at a time until I was making like a lot of money on also helping clients.

[00:02:37] Paula Telizyn: Because I focused on e-learning and not for profit you know, helping them build their businesses up through the work I was doing. So, so it was kind of. Accidental entrepreneurship, or maybe entrepreneurship out of love you know, hard to say, but it was the best choice. And I went on to spawn three more demons, one or two more.

[00:02:53] Paula Telizyn: I'm miscounting and stayed home with them as well. You know, baby in the arm and typing with the other until the little buggers got too big and I had to stick them in a cage. So, which sometimes we want to.

No, it was just a playpen, but they were, they, they got to be home with me for the most part, you know, and that was really important.

[00:03:13] Paula Telizyn: As a parent, because you only, you only get that time once and I could do it. So, computer brains, tech manual, and I just, you know, went out and built my business. It was so worth it. 

[00:03:24] Bettina M Brown:  It is. And you know, I think for me having a child now who's 11 and feeling like, you know, I did the best I could, but I definitely missed so much that I'm getting tighter with the time.

[00:03:37] Bettina M Brown: And who I'm willing to give it to, including my child, this is your time. This is not. And so, feeling that, yes, this is completely possible. And with entrepreneurship, there's so much hard work. Maybe that's it is, you know, it is just you and that's the benefit. What people say, I want to own my own business.

[00:03:56] Bettina M Brown: It's just me, but it is just you. You know, 

[00:03:59] Paula Telizyn: and if you don't work, you don't get paid, which is the, the sort of thing I was back in the early 2000s. That was the mantra I had. If I don't work, I don't get paid. It's a great way to develop self-discipline, but it's a shit way to run a business. You know, like, it's, it just, it was a lot of stress.

[00:04:14] Paula Telizyn: And then the idea we now know, thanks to the pandemic, that employment is more secure. It's not, but that was the idea back then. So I had to battle that sort of mindset where, you know, what am I doing and who's going to hire me? And, and it was just the fact that it was either do this or put my kid in daycare.

[00:04:32] Paula Telizyn: That was, that was it. So, you know, it wasn't a lot of choice. 

[00:04:37] Bettina M Brown: And you also said that you were working this company doing really well, and then you had a major life shift we had to start over and that resonated with me because it was a life shift for me, but so many others, would you be willing to share some of that?

[00:04:53] Paula Telizyn: Absolutely. Absolutely. So, I'm Eastern European. I'm just going to put that out there and very dramatic. So, my life shifts happen very dramatically. It's like, you know, people go, well, I'm kind of feeling unhappy. Maybe I should do something. I needed a billboard. I needed a sign. I needed life-changing notifications.

[00:05:11] Paula Telizyn: I knew for a while I was unhappy. I went to school for art. Of all things, and ended up in programming, which I mean, that was my hobby. So, I loved it anyway. And so I've been unhappy for a while in my marriage and the life I had built. I felt very trapped. I was supporting five people, including myself a horse, three cats.

[00:05:29] Paula Telizyn: So, it was a lot of pressure and my ex didn't work. So, it was just a lot, a lot, a lot. And I started thinking, well, okay, maybe I can't do anything about my pressure. I can't do anything about my stress, but maybe I can at least go to those social painting nights. Maybe I can get back into art because I was always a painter.

[00:05:47] Paula Telizyn: So, I went to those things and the one that changed my life was in 2015 in March. And I went to that night now and look at this woman who built a business around teaching people how to relax and paint and have a glass of wine and whatever. And I'm thinking, why can't I do this? You know, what's wrong with me that I have to really feel trapped and stressed and I'm producing a lot of work, but I'm doing it at the cost of my own health.

[00:06:11] Paula Telizyn: And I was thinking that as I'm driving home 10 o'clock at night on 401, which in Canada is our busiest highway in Ontario. It's like an insanely busy highway. So, I'm driving along. And I'm in the left lane doing a hundred and something, which is in kilometers, not miles. And this car is beside me in the, in the middle lane, in the right lane, and there's no shoulder.

[00:06:32] Paula Telizyn: And so I'm thinking about, you know, my life and how much I, I just felt like I was, as I was getting closer to home, I was putting this weight on me and I could see car lights facing me, coming towards me in a really bad, bad example, that math problem, you know, two trains coming at each other. There shouldn't be car lights coming towards you on a divided highway.

[00:06:50] Paula Telizyn: Not in your lane. Not at all. That was, I was just like, looking at that going, I can't believe this is happening. And you know, it was, it was my, my, can I swear on this podcast? This was my holy shit. Fuck moment. Like it was, I wasted my life. I wasted my entire life. I was 42 at the time. So, I was just facing these lights and I'm thinking I never did anything I wanted to do.

[00:07:18] Paula Telizyn: Yeah. I built a great, you know home for my kids. I, we had a large home. We had, you know, a good size for what I thought property, you know, we were stable. We were comfortable. We were well off, but I was miserable. Yeah. And I had wasted my life. None of the things I wanted to do. I did. None of the things, so I was sitting there going,

[00:07:43] Paula Telizyn: Being really angry and I never saw like my life flashing before my eyes. It was just more like that. That epiphany and I don't know what happened. Obviously, I survived because spoilers. I'm here. But, you know, it. It just, I don't know if the car passed me or obviously passed me, but I don't know how, like, maybe a shoulder appeared because the shoulder came and went.

[00:08:04] Paula Telizyn: So, maybe I hit the point where there was a shoulder or whatever. That was kind of irrelevant because I knew. Once it went past me that every 2nd, and then every minute, and then every hour was golden was a plus, it was a gift. Right? So. I may have left the paint night, my usual self, but when I came home, I was not because I knew that I shouldn't be there.

[00:08:26] Paula Telizyn: There was no reason for me to still be alive. And that if I wasn't going to do something with that profound, insanely dramatic, only I could get that kind of message, you know, it would be a slap in the face to having received that. Right? You know, to, to whatever you believe in. The mind is open, but, you know, not wide enough for my brains to follow.

[00:08:47] Paula Telizyn: Whatever you believe in, it will be a slap in the face for that chance, that opportunity. So I went home and I thought, what can I do? Immediately my painting levels increased. I stopped pulling myself back. My paintings became really good. And I just thought, you know, I could, I could make a go at this. I know how to run a business.

[00:09:04] Paula Telizyn: I could be a full-time professional portrait artist, which is all I ever wanted to be. Even as a 16-year-old, I kept telling my teachers, I want to be a portrait artist. And I told my husband probably by July, I'd had built up some work and I decided I want to do this. I go, you know what? I want to be a portrait artist.

[00:09:19] Paula Telizyn: I want to change the business. I can't do this any longer. I'm going to die at my desk and he said no. And that was the moment that was the 1st major crack in the marriage. Now, looking back, there were a lot of things I should have seen prior to that, but that, for me, was the 1st moment I became aware that he did not have my back and I ignored him.

[00:09:43] Paula Telizyn: Because I just felt like, fuck you. And, and I spent that September. So from March to September I was making changes that September. I spent 30 days trying to make 30 paintings. So, working full time in my business, being responsible for my children and then painting at night. I think I got four, four or five hours of sleep at night.

[00:10:01] Paula Telizyn: And I made 25 paintings, 21 were good. And that was like, what do I do with this stuff? Like, I didn't know what to do next. Cause I had. Had been running a business that was taking over so well, I didn't really know how to market art. But then somebody reached out to me and said, you know what, in nine days, we're having a show and we need you there because I've been posting on social media.

[00:10:18] Paula Telizyn: And then somebody else said, we're doing a pop-up art show. Can you come and also be on the radio? And somebody else said, guess what? We have another show and we want to feature you in it, blah, blah, blah. And it just sort of built up from there. I got a rep and then I fired her. And I got a whole bunch of opportunities and every time an opportunity came by, I said yes to it.

[00:10:35] Paula Telizyn: Like, yes, it scared me. Yes. Can you do it? Yes. I'd figure it out later. Right. It just, because I kept thinking I'm living now in bonus time. Yeah. And it would just, that just kept me, kept me going. Absolutely. So yeah. 

[00:10:50] Bettina M Brown: And I hear that because I am a physical therapist. I work primarily with women who have gone through breast cancer, and you know, some, It can or cannot, you know, we all know it can't you can live with it or what have not go in remission, etc.

[00:11:03] Bettina M Brown: But this bonus time is where I'm getting at that there is a change that they'll say it's, there was a before and there's an after. And if I I'm in this place. I need to feel that something I've done is significant. Not just not that parenthood is not significant. It is, but also something where you yourself are not a role, but an actual person like your Paula out there, not just Paula, the mom.

[00:11:29] Bettina M Brown: Yeah. And even though that's huge. And I, I'm also a mom, so I'm not taking that down, but this bonus time is so huge and that you honored that. And went forward anyway is also very courageous because you had not, it was. Even though it was a passion and a love and you were good at it, you had, it was uncharted territory, right?

[00:11:48] Bettina M Brown: You re invented in the middle of life. 

[00:11:53] Paula Telizyn: Yeah. And it was really doubly difficult because I hadn't realized that my ex had been kicking me down suddenly over the years. So, I had isolated myself from family and friends. I didn't believe in myself every time I showed him a paintings, we met in art school, but he wasn't creating art.

[00:12:08] Paula Telizyn: He would tell me everything that was wrong with it. Like it was a constant. Beat down, and yet I kept going. So, it's like, it's like, I wasn't even just starting at zero where a lot of people start. I was starting at, like, negative 50. I had to actually dig myself up to get to ground level before I could even build myself up.

[00:12:24] Paula Telizyn: So it was, it was quite a haul to do that. Yeah. And bonus time is so, I think it's, it's such a gift. Right. It's such a gift. And if I knew if I wanted changes, I had to make changes. I kept saying nothing changes. If nothing changes, run towards your fear, get that adrenaline, create that courage. Like, I was just like being a cliche to myself, but it worked.

[00:12:46] Paula Telizyn: It absolutely worked. So in the five years that I ran my art business. I had my art in international shows. I had my art in the hands of celebrities. I went over to Spain to have an international group show. I was represented by three different galleries, you know, things like that, like big stuff happened.

[00:13:02] Paula Telizyn: Like there's no reason why an artist can't sell art, especially in this day and age, you know, you get online, you have access to a global audience. So, so that was, that was huge embracing that adrenaline and that change and stepping off the path. It made a huge difference, but You know, I didn't expect my kids to change and I think this is, this is really important, especially for anybody who's listening, who's, who's thinking, you know, I want to make a change, but it's going to harm my kids.

[00:13:26] Paula Telizyn: I was really afraid of harming my children and they immediately pivoted when they saw me pivot. And, and so they were at the time I think my oldest was in grade 7, so my kids are now 21. But back then, it was a few years back they saw me choose my happiness. And choose myself and choose my dreams and they went from sort of existing knowing that they go to school and then get a job and then, you know, retire and die to actually embracing their lives.

[00:13:54] Paula Telizyn: So, my, my oldest kid spent 2 years prepping her portfolio and got accepted into the art high school here in London. And my second kid thought I can make stuff. I can make props from video games. He's a boy. I can build things. I can try new things, put together his portfolio, got accepted to the art school in London.

[00:14:11] Paula Telizyn: And my youngest is heading there this September. Cause they got accepted into the art school in London. Yeah. And back then we didn't live in London. You had to have special, you know, Permission to be there. So it was huge for them to get in and choose themselves and they're all going on their own paths.

[00:14:30] Paula Telizyn: They're all going to have different creative lives. I don't expect them to copy me, but I expect them to choose themselves 1st. And if I had known that choosing me and my dreams. Would make things better for my kids. I never would have hesitated. I never would have needed that giant certain death experience dramatic thing happening because I would have gone.

[00:14:51] Paula Telizyn: This is good for my kids. It's good for me. Booyah. Let's do it. Right. But I was so afraid of shaking things up and making things worse because you hear about and maybe it's not true, but I'd heard about, you know, broken families and kids ending up on addiction issues and whatever. And I'm like, I'm just going to hold the family together by just yeah.

[00:15:07] Paula Telizyn: You know, as tight as I can, no matter what it costs me but it turned out that that wasn't the right way. And so that was just absolutely massive. 

[00:15:16] Bettina M Brown: Yeah, and I, you know, I'm not going on a tangent, but having been on both sides. Right. And, and realizing the sacrifice it does take for those that do choose to stay together.

[00:15:28] Bettina M Brown: Your children still know, and they still know, and they still witness, they still observe, but their happiness does not grow. You know, they're, they're, it's not between pain and no pain. It's just between short term pain and long term pain. And then it is an easier shift to say, I'll go through the short term.

[00:15:45] Bettina M Brown: That sounds a little bit better than this long term, which then affects generations down, but you have changed like the generations. Should your children have children or anyone they're around? Their glow is now different. So you've made such a huge impact by following what your heart and your passion is not just, and you're still getting a paycheck from it, right?

[00:16:05] Bettina M Brown: It's not just between security and not, but really believing in yourself has made that difference. 

[00:16:12] Paula Telizyn: Yeah, it makes a huge, huge difference. And, you know, my marriage ended in alcohol and violence and not my alcohol, not my violence. But my kids were very grateful that I chose at that point to pull the plug when things got violent.

[00:16:25] Paula Telizyn: Right? I didn't stay. There was nothing. I, I lost everything and they were still happy. You know, that, that they, my 12-year-old at the time thanked me. For giving them more secure life and a calmer life. And when I thought I was holding things together for their, their benefit, I wasn't, I was keeping them in a situation that demonstrated what marriage is.

[00:16:45] Paula Telizyn: And it wasn't healthy because the more I got into the art business, the more my ex got you know, unpleasant to live with more and more and more. So, you know, making those changes. As hard as it was to say, guess what the life we had, it's gone ended up benefiting everybody dramatically. So and I can't imagine living in COVID with him now anyway, but, but it's, it's important.

[00:17:11] Paula Telizyn: And I, again, I wish somebody had said that, that, that the most selfish act is actually the most generous act. So, my kids now get to see what it means. In all aspects, not just business, not just creativity, but in all aspects to choose yourself to leave a relationship that that gives you a defined path for the unknown, because the path is horrible, you know, it's, it's, it's a torment.

[00:17:35] Paula Telizyn: And I hope that they continue to take that into their lives that that when they have relationships that don't work as my oldest did that they leave them, even though they're familiar and comfortable. 

[00:17:45] Bettina M Brown: No. Yes. And there, there is a term called dysfunctional comfort and many of us can stay in that whether it is with our job because it's secure with relationships, with the way we look, the way we do anything because it is.

[00:17:59] Bettina M Brown: The same. And so, it does take on you or said you gave yourself all the cliches. Where did you, did you, did you listen to podcasts? Did you, and again, I know things have shifted. Did you read books or did you just have this inner fire within you? And you just pulled from that. 

[00:18:16] Paula Telizyn: I don't know that podcasts existed back then, because that's 2015.

[00:18:19] Paula Telizyn: Do they really kind of exist? 

[00:18:21] Bettina M Brown: Yeah, they're very, not as much as now, but there are a few. Yeah. 

[00:18:24] Paula Telizyn: Yeah. Yeah. So, so what I did was I knew cause I'm, I'm a strange breed of logical creative, right? Because of the, all the programming and the math and stuff, but there's a huge element of creativity in that. And so when I went, was that Kate, I went.

[00:18:38] Paula Telizyn: What do I have? And what do I need? And I needed inspiration, direction, and information. So I started Googling things. So I, I looked up art coaches. I looked up running an online business because I knew things had changed since I'd set up. It's my business was taking over beautifully and I looked up a whole bunch of stuff.

[00:18:54] Paula Telizyn: So I started getting you know, Reading things from Denise Duffield Thomas, she does Lucky Bits, she's a money guru, Leonie Dawson, Martin Steller all these people, Corey Huff, all these people who either did business or mindset or both, and just absorbed everything. Everything. And I guess I, I just, and I was an avid reader.

[00:19:15] Paula Telizyn: I mean, insanely avid reader, even before that, because my business in e learning focused on publishing. So I read everything that came across my desk, no matter what, because it was just words and ideas and wonderful things. So all of that came back out. And when I was in the process of separating from my marriage and exploding my life, and I call it running through my life with swords you know, I wrote a book.

[00:19:36] Paula Telizyn: And all of the stuff that I had taken in and experienced and used to help myself I wrote a book and hopefully it would help other people in that process as well. So, yeah, it was, it was an absorbing of everything. Like I was just a sponge. Yeah. 

[00:19:50] Bettina M Brown: And what's great is that there is no time limit of when we can absorb, right.

[00:19:55] Bettina M Brown: We, we don't, we don't have to stop growing. We, you know, we talk about all the go things, we get married, we do this, we do that. And then it's just like this. And then that's it, you know and that's not it and that doesn't have to be it and your website 0 percent luck. Where'd you come up with that? And how did you, where, where did that phrase quote come from?

[00:20:17] Paula Telizyn: Well, there's a tiny bit of a story for that too, because after my marriage ended and I found myself in a new town and renting a house for the first time in my life, I couldn't produce enough art to support us because I was traumatized. My kids were traumatized and everything else. 

[00:20:30] Paula Telizyn: And one of my friends who I knew as a fellow artist, and I decided to team up and form a business and we formed a business that helped artists sell their art online, but it wasn't a good match. She's a wonderful person. I love her dearly, but I'm a very focused, very driven worker, and she is more of a hippie style, which is fine.

[00:20:46] Paula Telizyn: And it worked for a while. But we've just actually ended the business last month. So, while I knew the business was ending, because I had sort of done all the projections and everything else months ago, I, I knew I had to come up with something and my name was already being used for my art and my writing my creative projects.

[00:21:04] Paula Telizyn: I couldn't use my name to run a new business. I'm like, okay, so what's, what's the foundation. Of businesses, why do businesses fail and a lot of businesses fail because they think that they can manifest stuff they can dream into action and manifesting is really a psychological psychological thing. You know, you create this cognitive residents and all that.

[00:21:24] Paula Telizyn: Then you start building extra brain wants to create what you're imagining. And I thought, okay, so there's no luck in business. It's systems. It's. Action it's planning. It's goal setting. There's no luck in business. There's no luck in business. 0 percent luck. And so the actual specific phrase ironically is on a book.

[00:21:42] Paula Telizyn: I've a journal that I was given. It was what is it? A hundred percent hustle, 0 percent luck. And it matches what I was saying. I'm like, I can't 0 percent like can't be taken. com. Right. It can't be taken or it should be taken. And I Googled it and it was like, Nope, it's available. I jumped on it and I thought, yep, your success is 0 percent luck.

[00:22:00] Paula Telizyn: That's the bottom line. So, so my, my new business is helping solopreneurs, specifically women get focused, get themselves streamlined, get everything behind the scenes organized so that they can have more reach and more money. Because that's what I know how to do, right. I know how to get focused. I know how to do it in the worst.

[00:22:18] Paula Telizyn: Circumstances. I know how to do it with kids at home for 17 months. I mean, thank goodness last 17 months. My kids are teenagers. They don't need me to pull Legos and other nose or whatever, but there's still that being aware that are they doing their work? Are they homeschooling appropriately? You know, things like that.

[00:22:34] Paula Telizyn: I know how to do all of that and still produce books and still produce content and still have clients and still run a business and you do so by being uber efficient. So that's what it's all about. 0 percent luck. 

[00:22:50] Bettina M Brown: and you said you help solopreneurs with is there a specific category of business or you're just in, you don't care what category your category is working with women who are now looking to build their business.

[00:23:03] Paula Telizyn: Yeah, I was initially started focusing on coaches and all that. And I just thought, you know, that's not wide enough because women have been left behind in the pandemic. And so rather than niching on an industry, I'm niching on what I offer. So, so I'm helping women who have already started running the business.

[00:23:19] Paula Telizyn: So, this is not from the ground up, but they're already running. Streamline things because I don't want to teach somebody how to open a PDF. I don't want to teach them. You know, you need to get a website or whatever, but I will go in and say, this is what's not working. This is where your messaging is off.

[00:23:32] Paula Telizyn: What's going on behind the scenes. Let's drop this and this and this. So I had a client and I had them drop like, 3 of the things they were doing that weren't efficient, weren't serving them. I said, you could pick them back up in 6 months. Let's re examine it. But right now, it's taking your time and effort, you know, things like that.

[00:23:46] Paula Telizyn: So it's not even like generic courses that you can take and go, you know, 5 things you should know to run your business. Take this course 99 bucks. It's not it's literally sitting down and going through and analyzing. In a fun way, because I don't do boring how can we make our business more efficient and work better for you?

[00:24:04] Paula Telizyn: So you have more free time because I mean, who goes into business saying, gosh, I'd love to work 50 hours a week, neglect my children and watch my houseplants die, you know? You want to be efficient and you want to walk away, right? The way I couldn't for my tech company, you want to be able to walk away and go, this things are still taking over.

[00:24:21] Paula Telizyn: There's still things happening that are bringing money in. I'm not under that constant pressure to work 63 weeks a year, which obviously don't exist. Right? Right. 

[00:24:30] Bettina M Brown: You know. And that's a huge part because there is you know, going through different things, even with a podcast, the amount of time that this takes, you know, and, and you really have to enjoy it, but there's also, it's nice when I do a whole month worth of content and I can take the month off from it and know I just spend one day organizing and then I can continue, but I still have that reach all day, every day.

[00:24:52] Bettina M Brown: And so you're not running the business. It's still running, but you're. Helping, you know, you're helping grow it, but it's not running you down, right? There's no point to that. Then go back to security. Exactly. 

[00:25:07] Paula Telizyn: Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, the business should not be running you. That's the bottom line. 

[00:25:12] Bettina M Brown: Yes. And so right now.

[00:25:15] Bettina M Brown: What do you, what do you envision for your future? Where are you rising up to now?

[00:25:19] Paula Telizyn: now? I always want to have some kind of positive impact, right? Community means everything to me, giving back to community, participating community. And I don't mean locally. I mean, just the community that I choose. So, it can be global.

[00:25:32] Paula Telizyn: In this case, women entrepreneurs, I want to make sure that if anybody needs that help, if they, if they need, you know, That kind of support that oftentimes business owners need. I didn't have in my first business that there's somebody there who maybe they can relate to. Maybe they don't find my sense of humor terrible.

[00:25:50] Paula Telizyn: And that, that I can help make a difference because the people I've had, I've helped so far Have had huge impact outward, right? Because when women are making money, the money goes back into communities. It goes back into families. It goes back into the economy that we're all better off when women do so.

[00:26:07] Paula Telizyn: So my goals with this business are to help as many women as possible to create their own dreams. At the same time that obviously I'm supporting my own children on my own. And we create a better world for our families that ripples outwards that, that their kids, if they have them can create changes in their own lives by reflecting their mother's lives.

[00:26:27] Paula Telizyn: Right. You know, that kind of thing. So, impact is really, really important to me. I don't want to just, just have a business for money, but money isn't evil. I want to have a business that feeds my soul, feeds the community and feeds my kids. 

[00:26:41] Bettina M Brown: I hope you enjoyed this podcast with Paula. I love the way she talked about being a unique kind of person who's a logical and creative, and perhaps that's you really loves numbers, but really knows that being creative is an essential part of your own being.

[00:26:59] Bettina M Brown: She talks about her own courage moments, her moment when she said herself that was a life and death and, and hopefully. We don't all have to experience that, but so many of us had, right, when we're really on the bottom and the only place to look is up, sometimes literally. So if you enjoyed this podcast, I encourage you to leave a five star review.

[00:27:19] Bettina M Brown: It helps move this podcast into the hands and ears of those that really need it. And I encourage you to share it with any of your friends that you feel would be benefited from this and check out Paula's information down below. You can reach out and contact her. She is open literally for business and is excited to work with especially women entrepreneurs.

[00:27:41] Bettina M Brown: And until next time, let's keep building one another up!